他在城市进化论“<a href="https://weibo.cn/sinaurl?u=http%3A%2F%2Fmp.weixin.qq.com%2Fs%3F__biz%3DMzg2MjA5Mjc0OA%3D%3D%26amp%3Bmid%3D2247548191%26amp%3Bidx%3D1%26amp%3Bsn%3D19e900213aa1b4eaf4dfa858d493040b%26amp%3Bchksm%3Dce0f51bcf978d8aad3d7b889a1862d792d1e2e97ac2bc47267f76b26d4e4c20fd6fa6f242f54%26amp%3Bscene%3D21%23wechat_redirect" target="_blank"><em>大家的城市公开课</em></a>”第二期上提到，“我觉得我们不需要让一个城市去抵御10万年一遇的洪水、暴雨、干旱，也不需要修到应对万年一遇的程度，能应对百年一遇就可以了。”

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